Wales vs South Africa Live

Wales vs South Africa Live : Wales and South Africa go head to head on Sunday morning in the second semi-final of the Rugby World Cup.

The Welsh are making their third appearance in the last four of the tournament, having previously reached this stage at the 2011 edition where they lost 8-9 to France.

While South Africa comfortably came past Japan in their quarter-final, Warren Gatland’s men were taken to the edge by the French in their meeting in Oita, winning by just one point after Sebastien Vahaamahina was sent off for elbowing Aaron Wainwright.

Wales and South Africa’s last meeting at World Cup came in the 2015 quarter-finals, with the Springboks edging to a 23-19 victory.

Wales are confident centres Jonathan Davies and Hadleigh Parkes will both be fit for Sunday’s showdown. Davies missed the quarter-final win over France, while Parkes has been playing with a broken bone in his hand and a shoulder knock.

Wales have played their get-out-of-jail-free card already this tournament; another sloppy start this weekend will see South Africa win at a canter. Warren Gatland’s men will be better, but their stuttering attack will cost them against the best team that they’ve faced in the tournament. Hungry South Africa are hunting for their first final since 2007, too.

You’ve got to take your hat off to France. They were excellent and very unlucky. I definitely went through a lot of emotions today. We didn’t play our best tonight but we showed some great character and we’re looking forward to the semi-final. We’re 160 minutes away from possibly winning the World Cup. If you can’t get excited about that nothing will excite you.

The red card was very significant but that sometimes galvanises teams. I don’t think anyone could complain about it. The right decision was made. It was heat of the moment stuff, he just made an error of judgment.

Rassie Erasmus, speaking after the victory over Japan, said:
We were very nervous at half-time. When we get the opportunities, we must utilise them.

In a game which is 80 minutes, and 40 minutes of ball-in-play, if you have four minutes where you drop your standards, you will get caught out.

I guess we don’t need to improve in specific departments, but rather for 80 minutes of rugby if we want to win the World Cup.

It wasn’t really harsh words, it was more trying to calm the guys down and trying to execute.

Wales vs South Africa

Wales vs South Africa : This rugby fixture could go either way, or at least that’s the chatter. Wales’ national team has fallen at this hurdle before, and it can’t get complacent and expect an easy go because of an injury on the other side of the pitch. Can the Springboks beat the odds and advance to the Rugby World Cup final, or will the Welsh team get there for the first time? To find out, you’ll want to catch a Wales vs South Africa live stream this weekend.

The big story going into the match-up is South Africa losing fullback Cheslin Kolbe to injury, a loss that even Rassie Erasmus, the Springbok coach, admitted to be to be “a big blow” to his team, when talking with the media earlier this week. S’bu Nkosi is set to fill in, and has the “full confidence” of his coach.

And as for the Wales team? Well, their attack formations have been criticized as ‘stuttering’, which is picking a narrow win for the Springboks — even though betting odds place Wales as the 2:5 favorite. Meanwhile the South African team’s already admitted to being concerned with the Wales team’s kicking and derided its use of filming their practices.

Streaming options vary greatly, based on where you are, and cost a lot in the U.S.. Here’s our guide to watching the 2019 Rugby World Cup online from absolutely anywhere, and getting a Wales vs South Africa live stream this Sunday.

How to live stream Wales vs South Africa in the Rugby World Cup 2019 from anywhere in the world with a VPN
Anyone, anywhere, can watch this possibly tight Rugby World Cup contest between the Welsh and the Springboks, on the service they’re already using at home – that’s essential if you’re hoping to watch this in a country that isn’t showing the RWC in Japan. A virtual private network (aka VPN) is the tool you’ll use to dodge any geo restrictions that may try and block your way.

Once you’ve got a VPN, and we’ve got our picks on the best ones, you can make it seem as if your computer is back home, or anywhere else. This way you can use the legal service that you’re used to, and stop cycling through illegal streams from Periscope, Reddit and wherever else you’re pulling them from.

Our favorite VPN service, ExpressVPN, really shines thanks to its safety, speed and simplicity-to-use. It’s also compatible with loads of devices – from iOS and Android to Roku, Apple TV and PlayStations. You’ll even get an extra 3 months free if you sign up for a year, or there’s a 30-day money-back guarantee if you just want to give it a try.

Fortunately, you can watch Wales vs South Africa on the NBC Sports channel. Of course, there’s always the NBC Sports Gold streaming service, but it’s gonna cost you more, with pricing starting at $34.99 for live (and on-demand) streams for single matches. Most, though, will want to spend at least $89 for the Rugby World Cup Pass, as it includes all the remaining matches (both live and on-demand).

True rugby obsessives probably already have the $229 All-Access Premium Rugby Pass. That extra $30 gets you season-long access to the 2019-20 Rugby Pass (with a metric ton of other matches, including the Six Nations Championship, EPCR, Premiership Rugby League).

How to live stream Wales vs South Africa in the Rugby World Cup 2019 in the U.K.
Shockingly, the U.K. gets to watch Wales vs South Africa for free. Yes, just like every Rugby World Cup game, this fixture is free, as you can see it on the main ITV channel. Yeah, if you can believe it, folks in the U.K. won’t pay a dime to live stream the Rugby World Cup. That’s because it’s an ITV exclusive over there, and that service has no price attached.

South Africa vs Wales Live

South Africa vs Wales Live : South Africa too have been reinvigorated, but in less than two years, by coach Rassie Erasmus. As the winners of the 2019 Rugby Championship, including a 16-16 tie with New Zealand, the Springboks have plenty of hope about their own chances of lifting the trophy for a third time to sit alongside their historic triumph in 1995 and 2007’s glory.

WHAT: Wales vs South Africa

WHEN: Sunday 27 October, 6pm local time

WHERE: Yokohama, Japan

Will the northern or the southern hemisphere emerge on top from the Rugby World Cup semi-finals? Or will the perfectly set-up semi-finals give us another north vs south encounter in the final?

Holders New Zealand face England in the first semi-final on Saturday, while South Africa take on Wales in the second semi-final on Sunday, with both games being hosted in Yokohama. Wales are the only semi-finalist not to have won the trophy before.

Saturday’s semi-final kicks off at 5pm local time (9am BST, 4am ET), while the second match-up is an hour later in Japan (6pm) and an hour later in the US, but the same time in the UK due to the clock change for the end of British Summer Time.

The Rugby World Cup quarter final weekend threatened to be a classic featuring much-anticipated match-ups but, in the end, only the Wales-France game provided the necessary tension. New Zealand cruised past Ireland, England dominated Australia and South Africa weathered the Japanese storm in the first half to comfortably advance.

The All Blacks remain tournament favorites and have mostly been untroubled in their progress to a third consecutive Rugby World Cup championship. The only points dropped by the All Blacks were those lost to Typhoon Hagibis and the only difficulty faced was in the opener against the Springboks, but a devastating five minute spell in the first half, featuring tries by George Bridge and Scott Barrett effectively sealed that victory.

England too have looked comfortable until this point, particularly as Typhoon Hagibis also ruled out the biggest challenge, the group game against France.

For the semi-final the All Blacks and England have mostly retained the sides that got them this far with minor but key changes. England have recalled fly-half George Ford, moving skipper Owen Farrell to inside centre to accommodate him, and thus giving England more kicking options. Meanwhile, New Zealand have chosen Scott Barrett, a lock, to play at blindside flanker, and will look to dominate the line-out and potentially negating kicking for territory as a viable option.

For Sunday’s semi-final Wales are hoping to have centre Jonathan Davies fit after he missed the tense quarter final against France due to a knee injury. The loss of full-back Liam Williams to injury is a major blow.

Whenever Wales depart this tournament it will be the end of Warren Gatland’s tenure as head coach, twelve years during which Welsh rugby has been reinvigorated to the point where there is genuine optimism in the valleys that this could finally be Wales’ time to win the World Cup. A golden period unseen in Wales since the 1970s.

South Africa too have been reinvigorated, but in less than two years, by coach Rassie Erasmus. As the winners of the 2019 Rugby Championship, including a 16-16 tie with New Zealand, the Springboks have plenty of hope about their own chances of lifting the trophy for a third time to sit alongside their historic triumph in 1995 and 2007’s glory.

South Africa vs Wales

South Africa vs Wales : Warren Gatland has named his side to take on South Africa in the Rugby World Cup semi-final this weekend, and it’s a mixed bag on the injury front.

Liam Williams has been ruled out for the remainder of the tournament with an ankle injury following an accidental collision during training, while Jonathan Davies has been deemed fit enough to be named in the starting line-up for Sunday’s huge clash.
The centre was named in last week’s starting team to take on France in the quarter-finals but was withdrawn at the eleventh hour after alerting medics that he was not fit to play the day before that match.
Leigh Halfpenny now starts at full-back on Sunday to earn his 85th cap, Ross Moriarty starts following Josh Navidi’s tournament-ending injury while captain Alun Wyn Jones will move to joint-second on the all-time international appearance list on Sunday, level with Sergio Parisse on 142 tests (133 for Wales plus 9 British & Irish Lions appearances).

Wales’ team announcement comes after South Africa made the choice to name their team a day early on Thursday, making one change to the side that beat Japan — an injury-forced decision to leave out star winger Cheslin Kolbe, which sees S’Busiso Nkosi step in as his replacement.
Wales: Leigh Halfpenny; George North, Jonathan Davies, Hadleigh Parkes, Josh Adams; Dan Biggar, Gareth Davies; Wyn Jones, Ken Owens, Tomas Francis; Jake Ball, Alun Wyn Jones ©; Aaron Wainwright, Justin Tipuric, Ross Moriarty.
Replacements: Elliot Dee, Rhys Carre, Dillon Lewis, Adam Beard, Aaron Shingler, Tomos Williams, Rhys Patchell, Owen Watkin.
South Africa: 15 Willie Le Roux, 14 S’Busiso Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 1 Tendai Mtawarira, 2 Mbongeni Mbonambi, 3 Frans Malherbe, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 5 Lood de Jager, 6 Siya Kolisi (capt), 7 Pieter-Steph Du Toit, 8 Duane Vermeulen.
Replacements: Malcolm Marx, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, RG Snyman, Franco Mostert, Francois Louw, Herschel Jantjies, Frans Steyn.

Rugby World Cup semi-final venue waterlogged just 24 hours before first match
Here are a few more snaps from the waterlogged pitch at Yokohama International Stadium this morning, where England take on New Zealand on Saturday before Wales’ semi-final against South Africa on Sunday.
When Warren Gatland’s side arrived for their pre-game run out at the venue on Friday, players had to jump through rather large puddles to reach the sodden surface.
A giant puddle, stretched through the 22 metre area to the 10-metre line, was the worst of the problem.
There was plenty of splashing as players ran through the standing water on the surface.
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Springboks vs Wales

Springboks vs Wales : South Africa head coach Rassie Erasmus: “I think we have been under pressure to redeem ourselves for the last couple of years. We’ve been number five, six and seven in the world over the last three or four years and we’ve had some proper hidings against almost every team since 2015.

“We’ve lost to Italy, we’ve lost to Japan, we’ve been beaten by 57 points, 39-3 by Ireland. Some people have lost a lot of faith in us at different stages.

“We’ve got a different challenge which is to get respect back and so people start believing in us again. That was the pressure for us.

“Now we’re at the stage where we want to be number one in the world again. Now there is internal pressure and expectation and that’s different

Wales head coach Warren Gatland: “If we can make the World Cup final with the playing numbers we have got, it would be one hell of an achievement.

“It’s one step at a time. We have got a challenge on our hands on Sunday against a side that has been improving.

“I think they have definitely improved under Rassie in terms of going back to some of the things they are good at, their strengths.

“I am excited about it. I’m more looking forward to this game than I was last week, and more confident about this game than we probably were against France.”

South Africa will be without the electric Kolbe against Wales because of an ankle injury, which Erasmus admits is a “big blow”.

S’busiso Nkosi takes his place in the Springboks’ only change from the victory over Japan.

Wales have multiple injury woes of their own, with full-back Liam Williams and back-rower Josh Navidi ruled out for the rest of the tournament with ankle and hamstring injuries respectively.

Leigh Halfpenny replaces Williams and Ross Moriarty comes in for Navidi, while centre Jonathan Davies returns having missed the quarter-final win over France with a knee problem.
Match stats
• Wales have won each of their past four test encounters with South Africa, after winning only two of their first 31 against them.

• South Africa’s most recent victory over Wales came in the quarter-finals at the 2015 World Cup. The Boks won the game on a 75th-minute Fourie du Preez try.

• South Africa won each of the previous two World Cup meetings between these countries, 17-16 in the pool phase at 2011 and 23-19 in the 2015 quarter-finals.

• South Africa and New Zealand are the only World Cup opponents Wales have only lost against.

• Following their quarter-final win over France, Wales were the only team in the World Cup who have won five matches.

• The only player to feature in all four recent Wales victories over South Africa is Cory Hill, who dropped out of this World Cup squad injured.

• Pieter-Steph du Toit, Steven Kitshoff and Elton Jantjies are the only Springboks to feature in all four recent defeats by Wales.

• No team in World Cup history has lost a match in a tournament and then gone on to win it. South Africa lost their opening fixture against New Zealand.

South Africa vs Wales

South Africa vs Wales : South Africa will be without the electric Kolbe against Wales because of an ankle injury, which Erasmus admits is a “big blow”

2019 Rugby World Cup semi-final: Wales v South Africa
Venue: International Stadium, Yokohama Date: Sun, 27 Oct Kick-off: 09:00 GMT
Coverage: Full commentary on BBC Radio Wales and Radio Cymru, BBC Radio 5 Live and Radio 5 Live Sports Extra, plus text updates on the BBC Sport website and app.
Wales stand on the brink of history as they prepare to face South Africa in Yokohama on Sunday, bidding to reach their first World Cup final with old rivals England lying in wait.

This will be Wales’ third semi-final and the second under head coach Warren Gatland, who will step down at the end of the tournament.

That will bring to an end a glittering 12-year tenure which has yielded four Six Nations titles – including three Grand Slams – and a first stint as the world’s number one-ranked side.

This is also likely to be a final World Cup for some Wales players such as captain Alun Wyn Jones, an inspirational leader who will join Italy’s Sergio Parisse as the second-most capped international of all time with 142 appearances, including nine for the British and Irish Lions.

Wales have been building up to this moment for years and, with many believing this is their best chance yet to win a World Cup, Gatland is urging his players to seize the moment.

“I have got two games to go as the Wales coach and I want to enjoy these last two games, and there are probably nine or 10 players who won’t be involved in another World Cup as well so they have got to relish that opportunity and be excited about this,” he said.

“You have got a chance to do something special in your life and these chances come along very rarely and you have got to grab them with both hands.

“When you want something bad enough and you really, really want it then it can happen.

“We have a group of players that really want to do a good performance on Sunday and hopefully get to the World Cup final.”

Standing in Wales’ way are a resurgent South Africa side, who pummelled their way past hosts Japan in the quarter-final.

Having slipped down the rankings in recent years, the two-time world champions seem to be on their way to reviving past glories since Rassie Erasmus was appointed head coach in 2018.

The former Munster boss has the enormous Springboks forwards back to their muscular best, while the likes of scrum-half Faf de Klerk and wing Cheslin Kolbe have provided the stardust to help their side claim notable results such as last year’s series win over England and a draw in New Zealand during this summer’s Rugby Championship.

South Africa vs Wales

South Africa vs Wales : Wales staged a stunning fightback victory to win a gripping quarter-final in Oita after France pressed the self-destruct button .

The Six Nations champions’ 20-19 victory was secured by Ross Moriarty’s 74th-minute try that Dan Biggar converted.

A Wales win looked unlikely for long periods as an often flamboyant and brilliant French team dominated.

But the game changed course after Les Bleus lock Sebastien Vahaamahina was sent off in the 48th minute for elbowing Wales flanker Aaron Wainwright in the face.

Wales trailed by nine points at the time, but they dug deep after an earlier Wainwright try, while Biggar booted 10 points.

What is it?
Wales vs South Africa in the Rugby World Cup semi-final, Wales’ third ever.

When is it?
Tomorrow – Sunday October 27 in Yokohoma.

What time is kick-off?
It will be a 9am GMT kick-off (remember the clocks go back an hour on Sunday morning).

What TV channel is it on?
ITV, who have exclusive rights to the 2019 Rugby World Cup. You can also follow the match live here with Telegraph Sport.

Read how to watch every match live – full TV schedule.

South Africa advanced to the semi-finals with a grinding 26-3 win over Japan, bringing an end to the home team’s entertaining run at the first Rugby World Cup staged in Asia.

With a half-time score at 5-3 it was still anybody’s game. The “epic moments” of Japan’s famous win four years ago were replayed on the stadium screen during the break but it seemed only to remind the South Africans of what was at stake in the second half.

Fly-half Handre Pollard landed three penalty goals from the 44th to the 64th minutes to extend the margin to 14-3 before the game finally opened up.

Scrum-half Faf de Klerk scooted over in the 66th after a powerful driving maul from the Springboks had Japan on the back foot, and Makazole Mapimpi added his second try of the match in the 70th to put the result beyond doubt.

South Africa vs Canada

South Africa vs Canada : South Africa can all-but confirm their place in the quarter-finals of the Rugby World Cup with a bonus-point win over Canada on Tuesday morning.

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The Springboks take on the Canadians in Kobe, just four days after beating Italy 49-3 on Italy.

Unsurprisingly, head coach Rassie Erasmus has rung the changes for the clash, making 13 in total as he looks to keep his side fresh for the knockout stages.

Damian Willemse will notably fill in at full-back, less than a week after arriving in Japan as a late injury replacement for Jesse Kriel.

Meanwhile, Canada full-back Andrew Coe, their only player to have scored a try in Japan, will make his first World Cup start. The 23-year-old scored after coming on for the last 18 minutes of the 48-7 defeat by Italy.

Can I stream it?
You can live stream the match via the ITV Hub on your smartphone, tablet or laptop. Alternatively, ITV4 will be providing coverage.

What time does it start?
South Africa vs Canada kicks off at 7.15pm Japan Standard Time, which is 11.15am BST, on Tuesday 8 October.

Teams
South Africa XV: Willemse, Gelant, De Allende, Steyn, Nkosi; Jantjies, Reinach; T Du Toit, Brits, Koch, Snyman, Mostert, Kolisi (capt), Smith, Louw.

Canada XV: Coe; Hassler, Trainor, Hearn, Van der Merwe; Nelson, Mack; Buydens, Quattrin, Ilnicki, Olmstead, Baillie, Rumball, Heaton, Ardron (capt).

SuperSport is the South African broadcaster for the Rugby World Cup, while TSN have the Canadian rights.While Canada has faced New Zealand in three of the last five Rugby World Cups, they’ve faced South Africa only once in the quadrennial tournament, in a game still known as the Battle of Boet Eramus, in Port Elizabeth, South Africa, in 1995.

They also faced each other in a June tour match in 2000, the Springboks winning 51-18. On Tuesday (3:15 a.m. PDT, TSN) at the 2019 Rugby World Cup in Japan, the Canadians and South Africans will do battle for just the third time in their respective rugby histories.

The 1995 game lives somewhat in infamy because of a full-on brawl which led to multiple suspensions on both teams, opening the door for the South Africans to call up Chester Williams, the winger who went on to capture the imagination of a country that was trying to unify itself after four decades of racist rule.

The South Africans went on to win the tournament and Williams’ role as the lone player of colour on the team is now legendary. Even non-rugby fans may know the story through the 1995 film Invictus, which profiled the efforts of president Nelson Mandel to unify his country behind the national rugby team.

South Africa have long been a rugby power. After the end of apartheid, global rugby’s leadership saw an obvious chance to have their sport play a role in helping South Africa move into a new era; they also, of course, saw a chance to hit a home run in terms of fan interest.

South Africa vs Canada Live

South Africa vs Canada Live : South Afriva face Canada with one foot already in the Rugby World Cup quarter-finals. The Springboks sit second on ten points, thanks to their better head-to-head record over Italy – but a bonus point victory over the North Americans would secure their spot in the next round.

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South Africa vs Canada Live Stream RWC 2019 Reddit online Free, kicks off at 11.15am BST on Tuesday 8 October. South Africa can all-but confirm their place in the quarter-finals of the Rugby World Cup with a bonus-point win over Canada on Tuesday morning. RWC 2019 fixtures.

South Africa vs Canada – prediction, time, live scores, TV, result and news South Africa captain Siya Kolisi accepts his side will be taking a leap into the unknown when they face Canada for the first time in nearly 20 years as they look to book their place in the World Cup quarter-finals.

A bonus-point win for the Springboks will all but assure the two-time world champions of entry into the last eight. Tuesday’s Pool B match at the Kobe Misaki Stadium will be just the third time the two countries have met, and the first since South Africa’s 51-18 victory over Canada in East London in 2000 – when current Springbok head coach Rassie Erasmus was playing for the home side.

Kolisi, who will be starting his third match in four games as he continues his return to match-fitness after a knee injury, said a South Africa side showing 13 changes from the team that beat Italy 49-3 last time had to focus on their own performance.South Africa could face Japan in the quarter-finals in a repeat of the ‘Miracle of Brighton’ when the Brave Blossoms stunned the Springboks 34-32 in the greatest World Cup upset of them all four years ago.

Japan are currently unbeaten at this edition having produced another shock win with a 19-12 success over Ireland, and Springboks assistant coach Mzwandile Stick said: “At the moment, the focus is just on the game we are playing. South Africa vs Canada: Rugby World Cup kick-off time and prediction
Kick off time: It’s the perfect time for you to sneak away for an extended lunch-time meeting. Kick off is at 12:15 SAST on 8 October 2019. It will be live on SuperSport 1.

The Springboks sit second on ten points, thanks to their better head-to-head record over Italy – but a bonus point victory over the North Americans would secure their spot in the next round. The two teams are set to meet at a Rugby World Cup for the second time in the enclosed Kobe Misaki Stadium, 24 years on from that night, which became one of the most infamous in RWC history.

On Tuesday 8 October, under a roof in Kobe, the occasion is the final Pool B match of the competition for both teams. The Boks need to win to guarantee quarter-final qualification. In 1995, under clear Eastern Cape skies, the occasion was the final pool match for both teams. And the Boks needed to win to guarantee quarter-final qualification. Hopefully, the comparisons end there.

The old Boet Erasmus Stadium in Port Elizabeth was the venue for the spiteful encounter belying PE’s moniker as the “Friendly City”. Even then, some 15 years before it was finally decommissioned, the venue was a ramshackle collection of stands that had seen better days.

But it could always produce a good atmosphere and that night, with the World Cup in full cry and the competition heading to the knockout stages, the “Boet” was heaving. The smell and smoke of grilling boerewors laced the air and beery fans sang and bantered good-naturedly. On the field though, things would not be as friendly and happy.

South Africa vs Canada

South Africa vs Canada : South Africa are expected to breeze past Canada in Tuesday’s Rugby World Cup, and are expected to rest key players ahead of the knockout stages

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The Springboks have won their Pool B ties against Italy and Namibia, but lost their opener against defending champions Zimbabwe.

South Africa’s players will be given two days off after the Canada match to spend time with their families having already been in Japan for five weeks.

South Africa vs Canada Live: South Africa captain Siya Kolisi accepts his side will be taking a leap into the unknown when they face Canada for the first time in nearly 20 years as they look to book their place in the World Cup quarter-finals.

A bonus-point win for the Springboks will all but assure the two-time world champions of entry into the last eight.

Tuesday’s Pool B match at the Kobe Misaki Stadium will be just the third time the two countries have met, and the first since South Africa’s 51-18 victory over Canada in East London in 2000 – when current Springbok head coach Rassie Erasmus was playing for the home side.

Kolisi, who will be starting his third match in four games as he continues his return to match-fitness after a knee injury, said a South Africa side showing 13 changes from the team that beat Italy 49-3 last time had to focus on their own performance.

South Africa could face Japan in the quarter-finals in a repeat of the ‘Miracle of Brighton’ when the Brave Blossoms stunned the Springboks 34-32 in the greatest World Cup upset of them all four years ago.

Japan are currently unbeaten at this edition having produced another shock win with a 19-12 success over Ireland, and Springboks assistant coach Mzwandile Stick said: “At the moment, the focus is just on the game we are playing.

South Africa vs Canada: Rugby World Cup kick-off time and prediction
Kick off time: It’s the perfect time for you to sneak away for an extended lunch-time meeting. Kick off is at 12:15 SAST on 8 October 2019. It will be live on SuperSport 1.

For the RWC, we’ll be using a prediction algorithm from a New Zealand anorak.

Prediction: Stranger things happen at sea, but South Africa are tipped to win by 62 or more.